Ukraine-conflict: German oppose new sanctions Russia – SPIEGEL ONLINE

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This Spiegel article is well worth a read. Check it out!

via Ukraine-conflict: German oppose new sanctions Russia – SPIEGEL ONLINE.

Personally, I am not surprised that ‘ordinary Germans’ are having second thoughts about sanctions on Russia. After all, sanctions are impacting the German economy and Russia seems to be shrugging off sanctions.

The trouble with sanctions is that they have such an uncertain impact and one cannot project the next step in the progressive escalation.

Surely our ‘ordinary Germans’ would perhaps sooner look after themselves and abandon East Europe to the Russians?

And after focusing on East Europe, perhaps our  ‘ordinary Germans’ will focus on the need for South Europe?

Thoughts?

One response

  1. As Dr Allf knows increasing sanctions leads either to war or to people being able to circumvent them.
    David Cameron,President Obama and some of our other vacuous and posturing leaders seem to learn nothing from history and in some ways remind me of King Canute sitting on the coast of Southern England commanding the tide to go back at Bosham and finding that it was coming in anyway as it always had.

    So if we look into the past we see that for the most part sanctions are counterproductive.
    For example, the sanctions against South Africa for Apartheid under De Klerk did not work.

    Sanctions against Mussolini in the 1930’s brought about by Churchill in an effort to bring him to book for his invasion of Abysynnia made people like my uncles and Great uncleswho were expert marksmen and keen hunters, in Ital,y shoot large numbers of birds for food.

    Later it forced them to kill my late mother’s pet pig for food but apart from eating black bread ,people did not starve.

    The British,American and Dutch embargo of oil applied to Imperial Japan forced the Japanese into World War 2 as had been planned all along.

    After all the horrors of the Bataan March and Japanese occupation of large swathes of Asia it took a great deal of blood and treasure and the flattening of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with 2 atomic bombs to break their will.

    Ordinary people, conscripted soldiers and POW,s paid the price of those sanctions rather than Emperor Hirohito and those at the top of the societies of each warring country.

    Russia is not a small country,it is a very large one with a powerful military,a massive cyber warfare capability of 2 million people,Iskander missiles capable of breaking through missile shields and the ability to project power globally via stealth fighters,nuclear bombers,space based weapons and a rapidly improving army.

    All attempts to invade that country have resulted in defeat for the invaders,the most recent of which were Napoleon and Hitler ,yet President Obama says “I don’t worry about Russia,they do not make anything”.

    What he of course fails to realise is that under Putin the Russian economy is 10 times bigger than it was and that with the assistance of Germany and German engineers they are making things and are getting investment.

    For Germany,sanctions on Russia are truly counterproductive which is why a delegation of top German businesspeople went to Russia 2 weeks ago to work out how best to protect their interests and at the same time blunt the effect of sanctions.

    The UK if it persists will simply drive the Oligarchs away along with their money.

    Our military exercises held jointly with the Poles in Poland,last week are not going to frighten the Russians because they know that we are a spent and emasculated force that cannot even afford a coastal protection vessel and has an Army which is too small and which not enough reserves want to join.

    Ukraine is not a member of NATO so by treaty we are not obliged to defend it.

    Thus Chancellor Merkel has taken the pragmatic step of not increasing sanctions but continuing to talk to Putin in Russian.

    In the end this is the only way because we are not in a position to enforce our will on Russia and will end up hurting ourselves.

    The EU will do nothing about Southern Europe until there are riots and real disorder.

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